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Wedge Fitting?
« on: July 31, 2010, 09:36:43 AM »
How do you go about this?  I have been using Pelz Wedges for 10 years in some form or another - Pelz to start and 3 Bobby Jones Pelz wedges now.  I am pretty accurate from tee to green - averaging almost 10 GIR per round.

I struggle when I miss the green, and don't hit my wedges close enough to convert enough birdies - IMO, that is!

I take a small divot on full and half wedge shots, so I probably don't need much bounce.  For my 4 handicap, I am a subpar bunker player, and fair on chips and poor on pitches.  I have used Scratch's online fitting tool.

I have thought about more detailed wedge fitting, but that has focused on shaft fitting - which is pretty important - but nothing on grinds, camber, and loft .  Dana Upshaw built my irons for me, and he has told me that even loft gaps do not usually work out to even distance gaps due to changes in how golfers swing between clubs, particularly wedges.  My current setup is 45* MacGregor MT PW, and 49*, 55* and 60* Bobby Jones Pelz wedges.

Thanks!

Jeff

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Re: Wedge Fitting?
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2010, 02:28:36 AM »
Hi Jeff

I'm not sure whereabouts you are but, Ron Price @ Nomad Golf WRX is someone you need to talk with.

Grinds, porting, new grooves as well as swing weighting all have very important effects on your wedge play

http://www.nomadgolfwrx.com

He's got more info on wedges than anyone else in world to my mind.

Give him a call see whether you can get to see him personally, it'll pay off in the long run.

Its tough, getting from 4 to scratch without the right kit.

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Re: Wedge Fitting?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2010, 05:22:52 PM »
Thanks for the suggestion, Tony.  I sent Ron an e-mail today.

I will let you know how it goes.

Jeff

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Re: Wedge Fitting?
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2010, 01:14:12 PM »
Hi Jeff

I'm not sure whereabouts you are but, Ron Price @ Nomad Golf WRX is someone you need to talk with.

Grinds, porting, new grooves as well as swing weighting all have very important effects on your wedge play

http://www.nomadgolfwrx.com

He's got more info on wedges than anyone else in world to my mind.

Give him a call see whether you can get to see him personally, it'll pay off in the long run.

Its tough, getting from 4 to scratch without the right kit.

Regards
Tony

Following up on this thread.  Ron suggested my wedge make up might not be optimal, and that I might need lower bounce on my highest-loft wedges and a little less loft.  Since I had a 52* wedge that I did not use, I weakened it to 53* and strengthened my 60* LW to 58. 

Early results are promising but I will need to reshaft my wedges.

 
Jeff

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Re: Wedge Fitting?
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2011, 10:40:07 AM »
The United States Golf Academy was recently named by Golf Digest Magazine as one of the Top 100 club-fitters in the United States. If there is a reason we were chosen for this honor I think it is simply this. We have assembled a group of excellent golf instructors who understand that you can’t have a conversation about how to swing a golf club without knowing something about the playing characteristics of the club. Nowhere is that more evident than with the wedges you play and yet they are often overlooked during the fitting process.
 
When buying new clubs, the wedges should be fit in a separate process. The reasons to do so are basic. First, we use the wedges for shots covering a broad range of distances. Where the variance might be +/-  7 or 8 yards with an iron, it could be as much as 25 yards with a wedge.  Second, we make a variety of different swings to achieve the distance controls we seek. Outside - in cut shots, inside - out paths for low spinning shots to the green, steep or shallow angles of attack depending on lie and shot requirements. Our ability to hit these shots requires perfect clubface control.
 
The ball flies where the face of the club is pointed at impact. When the face of the club is tilted the effect on the ball is magnified. The more it is tilted the greater the effect. The effect on the ball flight of a wedge that is too upright or too flat is exaggerated due to the increase in loft. As a review, because of the tilted plane of the wedge, how that plane is tilted will influence the direction the ball leaves the club and also how the ball spins.

Most golfers play with wedges that are too upright. So for a normal shot and swing they get a ball flight that is often left of the target. If they don’t have the knowledge of club dynamics and how the dynamics change with the fit, they often compensate by turning the face open thinking the pull was caused by a closed face. Some will reroute the club on a bigger path to the right, which is the recipe for a shank, but that is another story for another day. Unfortunately, by opening the face, they also increase the amount of loft the club has at impact. The result is a straight shot high that flies shorter than expected due to the increase in loft. Unfortunately, by opening the face you also flatten the lie angle of the club. You can see this at home. Take your sand wedge and lay the club head flat on the ground with the leading edge of the face straight away from you. Now rotate the club head in a clockwise manner (opposite for lefties) and watch the face open. If you keep the club flat on the ground you will notice your hand drops lower and lower as you open the club. Why would this be a problem? Lie angles are usually tested by striking a ball off a board and then looking to see where the board marks the golf club. A wedge that is too upright, with an open face to compensate, will mark the sole of the club as if it is a perfect fit. So we keep playing at a disadvantage because we think we have the correct fit, blaming our lack of talent when it is really a club fit issue.
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